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Post by stillonly1wu on Nov 1, 2008 18:15:02 GMT
Found myself today at a Classical Riding Club Dressage Competition. Tests are like the BHS tests, with movements to be performed in order, although you only walk & trot in the lower level tests. But the movements are not marked individually. You get marks for Gaits (quality & correctness), General Aspects like Responsiveness & Attentiveness, Overall Suppleness & so on, and quite detailed comments on The Rider - correct use of Hands, Legs & Seat, Position & Balance, and "Harmony". It was a very low-key affair. There were not many peeps there, but they were all welcoming & friendly - "tea & coffee there, but you must make your own". Horses were all shapes & sizes. Nobody was dressed up: there is no dress code but you must wear a kite mark hat & safe boots. Most of them said "Bring your horse next time". (Visions of Travers exploding into the arena in piaffe, doing a few airs above the ground, and getting nothing for Responsiveness & Attentiveness  ) But they were so nice that I might well take him. Has anyone else come across this?? And if so, what do you think of this approach. Wu   |
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Post by fleabitten on Nov 3, 2008 19:44:14 GMT
Never heard of it but it sounds good - good for someone coming to give it a go I think I prefer the normal BD type dressage but maybe if I were to try it and then compare them maybe I would like it... |
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Post by brigadier on Nov 5, 2008 18:05:16 GMT
Is there a website to get details Wu?
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Post by stillonly1wu on Nov 6, 2008 23:59:13 GMT
Hi, Brig There is a website at www.classicalriding.co.uk, but you can't get much information off it unless you actually join the Classical Rising Club, which costs £27.00. The CRC is run by Silvia Loch. |
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Post by brigadier on Nov 29, 2008 16:38:50 GMT
Wu- Im so sorry- i missed your reply- thanks for that!
Brig
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Post by stillonly1wu on Nov 29, 2008 18:49:01 GMT
No probs, Brig Really enjoying "Brig & Maxi's Workout, by the way. Keep smiling Wu |
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Post by ronansmum on Dec 8, 2008 9:31:37 GMT
I think Sylivia Loch is a lovely rider, had a few of her videos some while ago, and I like the sound of this wu....laid back and not too serious unlike BHS stuff...
I have just posted a thread about conventional dressage comps and I must say the CRC sounds more fun allthegether, gel!!!
Get on with it wu, Travers will love it!!! ;D A chance to pose and show off!! ;D
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Post by racaille on Dec 9, 2008 11:56:41 GMT
I'm really envious of this, Wu, I'd love to have a go. Sadly, I don't think such a thing exists here  |
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Post by stillonly1wu on Dec 9, 2008 21:23:15 GMT
Mm. Sylvia Loch is a fabulous rider. Her horses always look so soft and she seems to be doing nothing with her hands but the horse is there in a lovely outline. I think she uses her weight a lot and can obviously use bits of herself independently to influence the horse.
Like, she detaches the inside hip and shifts it forwards and down so that the horse slides gently into canter. (They teach this at the Yorkshire Riding Centre, by the way, and tell you to "step down into canter") All very subtle. But it does work. Even Travers who tolerates schooling sometimes, never strikes off wrongly if I can organise myself to do it like this. But it doesn't work if you panic, stiffen, collapse, pull back with your hands, stop breathing, hurry or all the things I do when I'm worried about striking off wrongly.
I went to a Training Day on the CRC Dressage a couple of weeks ago and it was great fun, but it did concentrate a lot on what peeps were doing wrong (on videos), rather than how to do it right. However, with someone explaining, it was easy to see how a lot of the riders were actually preventing their horses from doing their best by the way they sat and the aids they used
Racaille, I have no idea how this way of thinking has arrived up here, but I can ask the person who organises things whether any such thing is happening in France.
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Post by brigadier on Dec 10, 2008 22:16:35 GMT
Anya Berren is French and of this school. Not sure what part of France though.
Doesnt your Masterclass professor do this sort of thing Racaille?
Wu- must pm you!! Basil is too naughty at mo to even consider this but if there is ever a session somewhere between us Ill meet you there to watch- Im Yorkshire area so not unfeasible??
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Post by racaille on Dec 11, 2008 14:33:58 GMT
Well, I've only had an hour with him Brig and he didn't mention it to me then!  Really, I think that even if I could detach a hip (!!  ;D) Paco wouldn't know what the hell was happening anyway. Schooling really isn't his thing (or mine, I suppose!) |
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Post by brigadier on Dec 11, 2008 16:08:49 GMT
I think the hip analogy is great- I was taught to sit to the inside and lighten my outside seatbone- which gives you the same effect but the step down with the inside is a much better description. It makes the inside leg longer and places the outside leg further back to control the quaters and the lighter outside seatbone allows the outside hind to step through and begin the strike off. It also places your weight in the correct position for the flexion as its easier for the horse to carry you if you are sat slightly to the inside. Some people forget then to follow the horses shoulder with their own so its important to press the inside shoulder back which gives you the feeling you are twisting slightly at the waist. Thus your hips follow the line of the horses hips and your shoulders the line of their shoulders and you become in balance.
(I remember that from one of my old outdated manuals! ;D)
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Post by stillonly1wu on Dec 12, 2008 20:27:37 GMT
[Really, I think that even if I could detach a hip (!! ;D) Paco wouldn't know what the hell was happening anyway. [/quote] Hi Racaille. I thought that, but it seems to make sense to the horse, even Travers. Only you do have to do what Brig says and follow the horse's shoulder with your own, and then it just happens. The Instructors at YRC tell you that it is as if you are cantering yourself, and the horse follows you. Beware: I have done this (and it's worked on the horse) with instructors who proceed to shout at you for being twisted and crooked, because the inside leg appears longer than t'other. And, being easily intimidated by those who shout, I assume the straight "Action Man" pose and the whole thing falls apart ... Which is why I am happy to have fallen among the CRC people, quite by accident. However, they haven't actually seen Travers yet, so they may not wish to know me for much longer. |
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Post by brigadier on Dec 12, 2008 21:40:54 GMT
Or they may just steal him!
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Post by Becca on Dec 17, 2008 12:01:07 GMT
(I remember that from one of my old outdated manuals! ;D) PMSL  |
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Post by duckles on Dec 17, 2008 13:46:08 GMT
Enjoying this thread. One teacher used to say, roll back the outside hip. So reading this thread I started doing this (while sitting at my desk) and discovered it has the effect of kinda detaching the inside hip and making it more forward. Could this be correct??
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Post by brigadier on Dec 17, 2008 16:27:11 GMT
yes yes yes! (ooh I sound like her from When Harry met Sally but actually the feeling is about the same when you get it!)
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Post by brigadier on Dec 17, 2008 16:27:59 GMT
(I remember that from one of my old outdated manuals! ;D) PMSL Mmmm- me too! |
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Post by duckles on Dec 17, 2008 16:56:59 GMT
yes yes yes! (ooh I sound like her from When Harry met Sally but actually the feeling is about the same when you get it!) ha ha ha ;D ;D |
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Post by racaille on Dec 17, 2008 19:23:41 GMT
PMSL Mmmm- me too! Me three. And am sitting here rolling my hips and it occurred to me that the OH might be quite impressed too  |
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Post by brigadier on Dec 17, 2008 21:05:24 GMT
Now here's a question- only for us ladies......... Have you ever?  ? Sorry to bring the tone down |
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Post by stillonly1wu on Dec 17, 2008 23:59:40 GMT
Sorry to have come from an outdated manual.  Glad to have amused, anyway |
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Post by brigadier on Dec 18, 2008 8:57:47 GMT
Sorry to have come from an outdated manual. Glad to have amused, anyway No no Wu! Weve hijacked your thread a bit- Ill PM you!!! |
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Post by ronansmum on Dec 18, 2008 9:08:27 GMT
Me three. And am sitting here rolling my hips and it occurred to me that the OH might be quite impressed too How come have I missed so much of this? ;D ;D ;D It's hilarious....you rude gels!!! Well I have to confess - no I am saying no more lest I say far too much but suffice it to say, the answer to Brig's question is YES... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by brigadier on Dec 18, 2008 9:11:59 GMT
hee hee- should I set up a poll?
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) But they were so nice that I might well take him.
for so much hard work we thank ye!!
Really, I think that even if I could detach a hip (!! 
;D) Paco wouldn't know what the hell was happening anyway. Schooling really isn't his thing (or mine, I suppose!) 
Always saddle your own horse
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Glad to have amused, anyway