Bitting help required!!

[ernieburt]

Hi any advice would be greatly appreciated. Many years ago Noble had a problem putting his tongue over his bit, I looked into the problem and bought a myler low port comfort snaffle which seems to have worked over the years. Now as he is 19 we have slowed down a bit and are concentrating on dressage/flatwork, the problem is the myler isn't dresage legal and we have gone back to a french link and the old problem has returned. I am looking at the Neue schule starter bit as it seems to have a very mild action and Noble really doesn't need a strong bit anyway. Has anyone any experience of this bit or any other suggestions, my trainer is also talking about a crank noseband but I am not convinced. Thanks for reading this. Nicky. XX

[fimacg]

The neue schule starter bit is what I use with Brave it does have a nice mild action but know nothing about whether it would stop him puttin his togue over it...

[solomon]

I use the neue schule verbindend but like Fi not sure about the tongue problem. Hope you find something soon. Much dislike of the crank nosebands on here due to facial nerves being compromised, drop noseband?

[fleabitten]

there are actually some myler bits that are dressage legal nicky

got this off british dressage website:
Which Myler bits are permitted under BD rules?
MB09 snaffle, MB01 snaffle, MB02 snaffle wide barrel, MB32 mullen barrel. Cheeks: Loose ring (without sleeve), Dee ring, Eggbut and Full cheek. All must be used WITHOUT hooks. A mix of metals is allowed within the mouthpiece.

there might be a bit thats mentioned above that would be suitable for him.

[ernieburt]

Thanks for the help I will look up the legal myler bits flea see if they may help. I think the problem is he has a narrow mouth with a low port and big tongue so not much room and he is a bit of a sensitive chap especially to tongue pressure. I have looked at a drop noseband but have been told it is better to get one with 2 adjustments so you can get a good fit. Is this correct? Thanks again all input appreciated. Nicky. X

[Blonde Donkey]

A friend of my mums uses a regular fulmer snaffle with cheeks and attaches it to the bridle with little loops to hold it in place with a cavesson noseband. I think the problems with a drop or flash noseband is getting the tongue over the bit, the bit is either not going to be effective or you and horsey are going to end up in a fair pickle and frank possibly panicking.
I think you're best bet is going to a local tack shop and having a chat with them about what bits they would suggest or even a specialist loriner or you EDT
Good luck

[brigadier]

I wouldnt use a noseband to stop the horse getting its tongue over, its down to tension somewhere and it has to come out- if you clamp the mouth shut the tension will go elsewhere and may cause other problems. Best to look at when the tongue comes out and then try to work with that.My horses puts his tongue out when he is stressed, either confused or upset, but its not a bitting problem so I would never look to change bit to sort it, I have to work on his confidence and comfort in stress situations.
Try to establish exactly why he is doing it, it could be boredom or confusion or a mouth problem.

[ernieburt]

Thanks so much Brig it really is also a confidence or confusion thing, he does it when I am schooling/with my trainer and asking for a bit more or when we are out hacking and a new situation arises he does a similar thing chattering chomping around the bit ( I think his tongue is then flickering under and then over but can't see) I also think he is quite sensative to tongue pressure. I would love you to give any more advice to bits that may help the situation or anything else I can do for the big guy, he really is an angel and want him to have fun!