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Post by fimacg on Feb 22, 2010 9:23:57 GMT
Since my lesson on Friday, when my instructor asked me to put spurs on... Brave has decided that he can walk or canter... but not trot Now, even without spurs, trot is obviously too boring or simply, too hard. I am working on forwards from the leg so when in the arena if he offers canter we go forwards for a few strides then try to re-establish the trot which we get then if I ask for a bit more we are off in canter again. We are just not talking the same langauge at the moment. Out hacking its more of a problem, as I am not particluarly keen on cantering up the road or on rock hard ground, even if there are no cars around. He is fine on the way out but as soon as we turn for home its nose in the air and 'trot? what's trot?'
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Post by racaille on Feb 22, 2010 11:20:28 GMT
I'm quite surprised your trainer told you to put on spurs. I wonder why?
R is prone to this sort of behaviour. He can't think why he should not race everywhere. What is working quite well with him is to push him into trot going away from home and make him trot for a good long time, then only walk home. I realise that it is difficult to get him to trot at all, so perhaps a good long walk first might help him calm down.
I know you will all raise your eyebrows but we do a lot of 'trottings' here on tarmac - it's better than the stony ground and we have lots of lanes that carry very little traffic. R gets horribly silly after a canter out hacking so we've taken it back to basics - long trots and lots of walking and he is much calmer and has more or less given up the leap into canter at the touch of your leg nonsense. Also we are trying him with longer reins and lighter hands as he then doesn't get excited by the anticipation. We are definitely seeing progress but I don't know if any of this might work for you?
Yesterday we did a nonstop trot of 2km plus a great deal of walking and he didn't jog at all, and when he got into the arena, apart from one over-excited leap, he was a star.
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Post by solomon on Feb 22, 2010 15:16:27 GMT
I have this Fi it is a pain! Flippin' horses who'd have'em!
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Post by fimacg on Feb 22, 2010 15:23:39 GMT
I'm pretty sure Brave is going up into canter in the arena because he finds this easier than giving me a more active trot, which is what I am actually asking for.
Out hacking and the canter instead of trot when returning home is just being naughty with the cold air up his tail. Given a long rein he will walk but it is a very active one despite the nose down appearance (I'd probably get a 9 for it if I could ever replicate it in the dressage arena) shorten the reins and he starts fighting ask for a trot and we still get canter up the road.
Daft Horse!
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Post by maximum on Feb 22, 2010 18:51:43 GMT
losing trot? - damn careless of you girl!!!try behind the sofa thats where I find things I lost!
sounds like he finds canter so easy - trot poles and really work on the ryhythm get hime swing through from vbehind and he will be less likely to break to canter. try a bit of lateral work to make it harder for him to go three time rather than the two. Its a real toughie because you need that forward energy but you dont want canter - your exercise of lots of circles on the corners - even at every marker -to really get the swing and rhythm.
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Post by brigadier on Feb 28, 2010 10:30:03 GMT
Two things- 1 could be he finds the canter easier than the better trot- as already said 2. if it was the first time you tried spurs then you could have poked him a bit more than he needed so he is a bit confused or sore, you may just need to be very firm but very patient and understanding to get it back!
Rac- I totally agree with long 'trottings' really does get the tickle out of their toes!
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Post by solomon on Mar 5, 2010 9:22:03 GMT
In my lesson yesterday, we lost trot too. Had been learning how to shoulder-in tres exciting never done it before. Anyway after that we tried to do it in trot. No way! Bit of canter bit of walk, no rhythm all over the place, I feel for you Fi.
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Post by fleabitten on Mar 5, 2010 16:35:28 GMT
I have to admit that would scare me This happened with trusty cob at old RS, they were doing walk to canter transitions and after he got it he went a bit mental and it was walk to canter everywhere
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Post by dannyboy on Mar 5, 2010 19:41:42 GMT
I just bought the april edition of Horse & Rider and there is a section on trot in it. I haven't read it yet but it might be worth a wee look.
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Post by fimacg on Mar 6, 2010 15:27:21 GMT
trot has been re discovered, he started playing up as soon as we turned for home, went from buckle end of teh rein to canter on the spot after we turned so after three canter strides up the road I got him back to trot and we trotted uphill for over a mile until he wanted to stop so we trotted a bit more and then walked the last 1/2 mile home on a loose rein again.
Hopefully that has solved the problem
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Post by brigadier on Mar 7, 2010 11:13:10 GMT
In my lesson yesterday, we lost trot too. Had been learning how to shoulder-in tres exciting never done it before. Anyway after that we tried to do it in trot. No way! Bit of canter bit of walk, no rhythm all over the place, I feel for you Fi. Now thats interesting Solomon, I think shoulder in, in trot is extremely hard to achieve, especially if the horse isnt established in its own carriage etc, better doing leg yield at Petes stage, then when you have more control over his length of stride and carriage try the shoulder in. No problem doing it in walk though, will help tremendously.
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Post by brigadier on Mar 7, 2010 11:14:35 GMT
trot has been re discovered, he started playing up as soon as we turned for home, went from buckle end of teh rein to canter on the spot after we turned so after three canter strides up the road I got him back to trot and we trotted uphill for over a mile until he wanted to stop so we trotted a bit more and then walked the last 1/2 mile home on a loose rein again. Hopefully that has solved the problem Job well done!
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Post by racaille on Mar 9, 2010 9:34:57 GMT
trot has been re discovered, he started playing up as soon as we turned for home, went from buckle end of teh rein to canter on the spot after we turned so after three canter strides up the road I got him back to trot and we trotted uphill for over a mile until he wanted to stop so we trotted a bit more and then walked the last 1/2 mile home on a loose rein again. Hopefully that has solved the problem Job well done! Ah, the healing power of a long uphill trot!!! What would we do without them? ;D
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