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Post by fimacg on Dec 20, 2008 20:43:52 GMT
Brave is really quite noisy...
He shouts for his friends when either out hacking on his own (which had never done until I bought him) or even in the arena when schooling (but not when we do ground work).
Any ideas of how to cure this, I know it is insecurity and so far I have either just been ignoring it or if it is starting to irritate me (as it was today) I make him work harder. Today every time he shouted we cantered two laps of the arena, either in an outline or extending down the long side and collecting on the short side, we did between 12 and 20 laps in 40 minutes, but it seemed to work and I had one very tired horsey on the way home.
Any other ideas?
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Post by racaille on Dec 20, 2008 21:34:28 GMT
Sorry, no ideas that will help. We have a horse that shouts as soon as his paddock mates are taken away to work (he is semi retired) and he has always been a horse that was over-attached to his chums, ie, always difficult to ride alone. I've no idea if this is the same thing, but it sounds as though Brave needs a lot of work away from his mates - especially hacking alone - so he realises that he will come back to his home/chums. Also, it seems reasonable that, as he is new, he is still learning to trust you as the boss ... when he learns that you mean food/safety etc he will 'follow' you to the end so the earth. It's early days yet ......
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Post by flyingfox on Dec 23, 2008 14:23:19 GMT
as racaille said it's probs just a security thing, fox used to hate it when the pony was taken away from him. but since i've created a bond with him it's no longer a problem. he also now calls to me when he see's me. in fact both our horses shout to us, when they want food or exercise or letting out. just spend lots of time together and it should disapper.
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Post by zara on Dec 23, 2008 21:16:22 GMT
AJ is a very vocal boy but not generally for his horsey pals - just me! As soon as he sees / hears my car or my voice he starts "talking". I have had a mare that did get very vocal when she left her comfort zone and it was very difficult to stop and I did find it difficult to deal with at times Zx
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Post by fimacg on Dec 29, 2008 21:33:45 GMT
Brave has just stopped shouting in the arena, hasn't done it on last 2 occasions, so now all I have to tackle is shouting out hacking
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Post by brigadier on Dec 30, 2008 11:37:52 GMT
My old horse used to do this a lot, particularly when competing or in new exciting environments. At the time I didnt have enough nouse to realise it was because he was out of his comfort zone and I would get cross with him which would lead to temper and bucking! It gradually developed into him being naughty at practically every 'event' I took him to so it became a thing to dread rather look forward to. If I could turn the clock back I would reassure more first before putting on the pressure. Why is life littered with 'if onlys'?
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Post by slinky on Dec 31, 2008 9:06:54 GMT
I would say "carry on with what your doing" Repetition, time and patience will pay dividends ;D
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Post by Becca on Jan 14, 2009 14:50:34 GMT
Oooo hadn't niticed this thread. How is the shouting going?
Bern has only ever done it with me if we are out alone and he sees another horse, close up or in the distance. It's like he is shouting "hey! you! are you alone too? rescue me!" haha
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Post by ceej on Jan 14, 2009 15:11:12 GMT
Harry is a shouter. above are right - its just repetition. after I have ridden him everyday for about a week he stops doing it but then if he doesnt go out for a while he starts again. scared the foul smelling poopy out of me when I first got him as I had had a napper and when he neighs he shakes! thought he was going to go mental...but he doesnt! PS when I saw the title to this thread I thought it was going to be about shouting at your horse.!!
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Post by flyingfox on Jan 14, 2009 18:43:44 GMT
fox has started shouting in the afternoons for no real reason at the moment, he is in, but then he's been in since october and has hardly gona out durring the day since november, i'm hoping he gets bored of it but it's not that bad, he probs just wants to play, but unfortunaly i have to go to sixth form so can't spend all day with him lol.
ceej i though same as you when i forst saw the thread title.
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Post by fimacg on Jan 14, 2009 21:48:58 GMT
Brave seems to have stopped shouting in the arena now, just occasionaly if the others shout for him.
Out on hacks though he is a noisy wee so and so...
So far he hasn't shouted when we have been off doing stressage except in the car park when others have been calling
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Post by rainbow on Jan 22, 2009 11:22:08 GMT
my old mare used to shout for england when u took her to shows she just wouldnt shut up lol
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Post by suzii on Dec 16, 2010 23:09:10 GMT
I don't think there is much you can do. Keeping him occupied and engaged is a good way to take his mind off missing his friends. But I suppose it is just a fairly natural response to being removed from the herd. I was reading a book today that suggested making the horse go out alone or work alone is the hardest thing you can ask them to do. Generally, if a horse is seperated from the herd in the wild, he will die So I guess they will always be happier in company Wish I could be more helpful, apart from just keep doing what you are doing, making him less confortable (not violently! Just more complex movements or whatever) when he is shouting and happy when he isn't
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