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Post by spotti on Feb 2, 2009 15:48:37 GMT
Following my weight-gain thread, I was just wondering how much bone all of your cobs have (all of you that have cobs that is lol) and if you show them, what do you class them as? Lightweight? Heavyweight? Something-in-betweeny? Or doesn't it matter?
Just being curious really...
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Post by zoon on Feb 2, 2009 18:36:33 GMT
Well Zoon has 26cm of bone on back legs (about 10.5" I think that is) and he is a Danish WB, certainly not a cob - does that make him a freak?
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Post by Becca on Feb 3, 2009 11:24:32 GMT
not sure if this is totally right but i think you measure round the cannon bone. and 7.5" rings a bell for h/w. (my brain could have made that up tho)
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Post by spotti on Feb 3, 2009 11:32:09 GMT
That's where I measured...oh I give up - she's just a hairy beast and that's that  |
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Post by Becca on Feb 3, 2009 11:37:52 GMT
Cobs are registered in three divisions: lightweight (minimum of 8½” bone), heavyweight (minimum of 9” bone), or Maxi Cob exceeding 155 cms. The classes where cobs are shown also have a similar breakdown: Lightweight Cob – mare or gelding 4 years old and over, exceeding 148cms, but not exceeding 155cms, capable of carrying up to 14 stone (196 pounds). Heavyweight Cob – mare or gelding 4 years old and over, exceeding 148cms, but not exceeding 155cms, capable of carrying more than 14 stone. Maxi Cob exceeding 155cms - to be judged as Cobs. Judges must pay particular attention to type (i.e. short legged animals of Cob type). Preferably to be shown hogged. Maxi Cobs are treated a bit differently from other divisions. The highest placed animals qualify for the Maxi Cob final at the National Championship show. Winners of these classes are not eligible for open cob championships from wiki  |
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Post by spotti on Feb 3, 2009 13:24:58 GMT
I saw that stuff yesterday nad thought "Right, ok, got to be a certain height and capable of carrying x amount of weight BUT HOW DO YOU TELL HOW MUCH WEIGHT THEY CAN CARRY?" I've officially given up caring about it now...'tis too stupid |
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Post by zoon on Feb 3, 2009 15:12:10 GMT
put fat people on until they break in 2?
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Post by fimacg on Feb 3, 2009 15:30:50 GMT
put fat people on until they break in 2? PMSL Zoon, |
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Post by spotti on Feb 3, 2009 17:07:54 GMT
put fat people on until they break in 2? PMSL Zoon, Me too! |
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Post by zoon on Feb 3, 2009 18:19:38 GMT
seriosuly though - they must have a line of progressively heavier people and just keep putting them on one after the other and see when the horse starts to struggle!
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Post by spotti on Feb 3, 2009 20:50:22 GMT
Probably! I told my friend about your idea for testing weight-carrying-capacity in horses and she looked rather amused yet shocked when I told her about the fat people...I wonder who discovered the maximum weight that a given horse could carry...  |
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Post by scattymare on Feb 4, 2009 21:20:55 GMT
Maybe they use weights in little saddle baskets - a bit like those things donkeys have abroad!! Can you imagine that at HOYS!!
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Post by florence on Feb 4, 2009 22:51:47 GMT
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Post by rainbow on Feb 5, 2009 2:02:30 GMT
Me 3! |
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Post by spotti on Feb 5, 2009 8:34:37 GMT
Me 3! Rainbow - what are you doing being up at that time in the morning?!?! Do you not sleep??? |
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Post by zoon on Feb 5, 2009 21:24:25 GMT
lol, glad I have amused everyone
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Post by mossh on Feb 5, 2009 22:30:21 GMT
There is a claculation that you can do to find out how much your horse can carry. Something to do with the amount of bone divided by the height or something x by something else. I know there is a calculation you can do but my maths is rubbish so i'd probably come out with a 12.2hh could carry 18 stone |
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Post by mossh on Feb 5, 2009 22:35:41 GMT
I'm a geek and found some calculation tingys.
"One very simple guide is to take the horse’s weight and divide by six to give you the total weight, including rider and tack, the horse can carry. Given this, a 1200 pound horse could carry up to 200 pounds.
Another quick and popular method is to use the 20% rule. You take 20% of your horse’s body weight and the result is the amount of total weight your horse can carry. For example, a 1,000 pound horse should easily carry 200 pounds of rider and tack. The 20% rule typically applies to competitive or otherwise “hard” riding. For pleasure riding, many use a 30% rule, so this 1,000 pound horse could carry 300 pounds for shorter pleasure rides.
Measuring a horse’s cannon bone is used by some in determining the approximate weight a horse can carry. A measurement is taken around the circumference of the foreleg, just below the knee. Add together the weight of the horse plus the rider and tack, and divide this sum by the cannon bone circumference measurement. Then divide that result by two. A number between 75 and 85 is good. If the number is over 85, you probably need a larger horse. Using this method, I measure the circumference of the horse’s cannon bone and get 7.5 inches. The body weight of the horse is 1,150 pounds and the rider and gear weigh 235 pounds for a total combined weight of 1,350 pounds. Divide 1,350 (total combined weight) by 7.5 (cannon bone) and I get roughly 185. Divide 185 in half and my final resulting number is 93. Using this calculating method, I either need to lighten my gear or get a larger horse to get the number down to around 85."
The last one however i don't really get...
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Post by spotti on Feb 6, 2009 7:48:54 GMT
Thanks Mossh...the last one is a bit complicated but after I converted kg to lbs and figured out all of my numbers, I seem to have a number lower than 85 so we're ok! Still, that last one doesn't really give any indication as to whether the horse is LW, MW or HW  Perhaps I should just shut up and be quiet... |
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Post by Becca on Feb 6, 2009 11:53:26 GMT
I knew there was a calculation! well done cheers mossh, might do that out of curiosity |
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