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Post by charleykips on Jan 7, 2009 21:34:48 GMT
Iv just been to watch some showjumping at a local riding school and was appalled to see kids and teenagers jumping with standing martingales on, on girl had a standing and a running martingale, now is it me just being picky but is that not a bit pointless? As far as i know jumping in a standing martingale prevents the horse from rounding into a nice shape over the jump.......so why use them? does anyone have any info to support otherwise?  |
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Post by zoon on Jan 7, 2009 22:08:31 GMT
I have found it very common in recent years to see people, especially those with whizzy showjumping ponies, using standing martingales jumping. You can buy special elasticated standing martingales that are meant to give the horse more freedom over a jump. Bonkers if you ask me - if a horse is not well schooled enough to be ridden with his head in a sensible position then he should not be asked to jump a course of fences. Almost as bonkers as jumping in draw reins (also very common!)
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Post by Becca on Jan 8, 2009 13:04:19 GMT
jumping in draw reins???!!!! where is my shotgun
I hate that so many people want to just win so badly they don't bother to teach the basics
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Post by fimacg on Jan 8, 2009 13:52:18 GMT
jumping in draw reins???!!!! where is my shotgun I hate that so many people want to just win so badly they don't bother to teach the basics and usually ending up ruining the horse in the process. I was flicking through a magazine recently and it was a jumping lesson for a skewbald cob, the cob was ridden in a flash and a 3 ring gag but then the text said he was lazy... why the need for the gag bit then? Oh I am such a grumpy old woman... |
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Post by charleykips on Jan 8, 2009 22:42:20 GMT
Fimacg- i know what you mean, these kids all had fancy bits in,flashes grackles , standing martingales the lot, but then they had spurs on.
It really does drive me insane when i see all this going on and people just accept it, what really brought it home was when i saw a girl from my yard jumping , i dont really know her, but she was in basic tack and her pony was a bit fresh but she rode quietly and jumped a lovely round, not once did she feel the need to bray the horse with her whipo even after it crashed through a jumpin the warm up.
It just shows how different yards have different attitudes. i was thinking of competing myself there but on second thoughts id rather not, it was so bitchy
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Post by saza60 on Jan 9, 2009 9:01:32 GMT
hi all. loui, when jumping always seems to snatch the rains out of my hands. had a lesson with my instructor the other day and she advised me to try a standing martingale on her. i did yesterday and believe it or not it work, when she found out she was pulling against herself and not me! strange i kno but it worked!!
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Post by gingernut on Jan 9, 2009 18:00:59 GMT
I've been to a Geoff Billington demo and he said exactly the same thing - that the horse is pulling against itself rather than the rider and so helps in the long run with training especially with youngsters, but obviously caution is needed and not over anything high! x
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Post by brigadier on Jan 10, 2009 21:39:20 GMT
Well Geoff will know what he is talking about but like you say Pearly, with caution!
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Post by ceej on Jan 13, 2009 14:34:24 GMT
Fimacg- i know what you mean, these kids all had fancy bits in,flashes grackles , standing martingales the lot, but then they had spurs on. It really does drive me insane when i see all this going on and people just accept it, what really brought it home was when i saw a girl from my yard jumping , i dont really know her, but she was in basic tack and her pony was a bit fresh but she rode quietly and jumped a lovely round, not once did she feel the need to bray the horse with her whipo even after it crashed through a jumpin the warm up. It just shows how different yards have different attitudes. i was thinking of competing myself there but on second thoughts id rather not, it was so bitchy well said. I hate it.  |
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Post by Becca on Jan 19, 2009 15:59:25 GMT
I have seen and ridden horse in standing martingales, as long as they fit correctly and you aren't going too high i don't think ther is a major problem.
Sorry was blinded by the draw rein thing first time round haha.
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Post by flyingfox on Jan 20, 2009 18:05:46 GMT
i was looking through some books on riding and schooling horses other night that we have at home. the books are about 10 years old, and interstingly there's very little use of gadgets. the horses are just about all in snaffles and either cavason or drop nose bands, with the ocatoinal flash. it was nice to see pics of horses that weren't wearing a millions gadgets and complicated bits. they looked so natrual.
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Post by charleykips on Feb 12, 2009 18:52:46 GMT
Nicely said flyingfox, they didnt have many gadgets just good horsemanship......but does that mean were all to lazy to solve the problem at the core? Hmmm time for all of us to asses ourselves i think  But on a good note iv taken Kips martingale off!! wooohoooo |
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But on a good note iv taken Kips martingale off!! wooohoooo