HELP ME! Is this real?

[spotti]

Just seen this on ebay, bargain price for a freeform. Just wondered if it looked like a real one? (also, 18" sounds huge...what size would that be in a treed saddle?)

cgi.ebay.co.uk/Freeform-Treeless-Saddle-Girth-and-Stirrups_W0QQitemZ300223133877QQihZ020QQcategoryZ3170QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

How big is your freeform Haffy? Becca?

[Maes Seren]

No its not a real freeform! Ive ridden in a freeform classic, looks nothing like that one on ebat. See this page for pics of a real freeform

goldfinch-equestrian.co.uk/ff%20saddle%20options.pdf

[rebanna]

cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250208891610 this is off her feedback if u go to as a buyer this is where she got it from and how much she paid for it

[spotti]

OK, cheers (did get a bit suspicious the the tiny price tag. Bit cheeky isn't it to take the picture from so far away, so you can't really see the saddle....)

[maximum]

18 inch is big as well you would be swimming about in it

[haffyfan]

From the crappy pic it will be a freeform....but a german one.....right bag of sh1t is another more common name for them!

[Maes Seren]

May 8, 2008 11:34:00 GMT haffyfan said:

From the crappy pic it will be a freeform....but a german one.....right bag of sh1t is another more common name for them!

Theyve got round it by calling it 'free form' when the real things are 'freeform'.

[haffyfan]

Watch out too for someone who is selling a torsion...only it's not...it has been sold once this last week and re-advertised and I wouldn't be surprised if it happens again as buyers obviously realise after it's not real...but you can tell it's not by looking to be honest. Surprisingly enough they refused to acknowledge my question about it's authenticity so I reported them to ebay for key word spamming and a misleading ad!

[haffyfan]

May 8, 2008 10:02:33 GMT spotti said:

How big is your freeform Haffy? Becca?

SB model with a 16" seat

My Torsions are 15" kiddies ones now as I found the 16" too roomy

[Becca]

I have and SB 16" too ;D what a co-inkidink

When i fon mine there were two types SB and classic. now they have loads. get a rep out and you can try one.

Spotti come over to the dark side! honestly they are worth every penny

[haffyfan]

But Torsions are still better!

[spotti]

I emailed the seller, asking if it was real and she said not - won't even bother looking any further (just had to enquire at such a low price!)

As for freeforms, I'm not too sure...I like the moveable stirrup bars, but...oh, I dunno...I'm just picky.

And torsions, I sat on one in Robbies and was really disappointed! It was so uncomfy, really wide, and just not what I'd expected. Guess they feel different when on a horse (and might have felt better if they had a 15" instead of just a 16") but hey ho. On the plus side, it was light and easy to move, although I don't like the square-ness of them. Again, I'm picky!

One thing I did learn in Robbies was that a 17" treed saddle is too big (no wonder I felt like I was sliding about in Faiths current saddle) and a 16.5" fits much better (knees in kneerolls and everything!).

If they do them, I'd like a treeless saddle but with a 'twist' (as they call them on the Heather Moffett site) - one that doesn't feel like I'm sat on the back of an elephant! Know of any? Do freeforms feel like your on an ellie too?

[haffyfan]

May 9, 2008 11:22:44 GMT spotti said:

Do freeforms feel like your on an ellie too?

No fear.... they dig in your bottom at the sides and everything just like a normal one!

[haffyfan]

May 9, 2008 11:22:44 GMT spotti said:

And torsions, I sat on one in Robbies and was really disappointed! It was so uncomfy, really wide, and just not what I'd expected. Guess they feel different when on a horse

Never heard the words Torsion and uncomfy in the same sentence before