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Post by Blonde Donkey on Sept 20, 2008 18:33:25 GMT
does she get carrots and/or haylage?
they can make some horses hyper
oxyshot is supposed to be really good but is expensive
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Post by brigadier on Sept 20, 2008 20:56:48 GMT
knock her off hard feed and just feed something like alfa hay and sugarbeet- more so she thinks shes getting a feed and to carry her foot powder. She sounds as though she needs some really steady calm riding- forget the schooling until she trusts you more and hack hack hack= lots of trotting to get the tickle out of her toes! She looks a sweet mare who has been spoiled by careless riding!
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Post by zara on Sept 21, 2008 7:57:59 GMT
Hi I've had my arab on every calmer on the market and have never really noticd much improvement. He is however on the Blue Chip "Kalmer" and it does seem to be the best i've tried. Also if you need a quick fix for clipping etc try the Equine America syringe, x3 doses for £12 ish and it does work (for mine any way) Zx
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Post by tory on Sept 22, 2008 17:19:13 GMT
I agree with brig - knock out her hard feed completely and let her have ad lib hay and grass - most horses do not actually need hard feed - our hunters hunt on very little as any thing more makes them go loco!
Give it a go and see what you think after 2 weeks.
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Post by granniesboy on Sept 23, 2008 19:19:25 GMT
I'm trying the naff liquid calmer at the moment {not magic} My very unbomb proof gelding has it in a small handful of chaff about an hour before we hack out. normaly anything other than a car will have him shaking and breaking out in a sweat, in a complete panic. We started on the full recomended dose and it was a complete revalation, he was so good with tractors, buses, everything. We have been out three times in the last week or so and each time I've cut the dose down a bit, now we are just on half the lower recomended dose. He had a traffic accident some years ago and has never been ok on the roads so you can imagine how proud of him i am.
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Post by gingernut on Sept 23, 2008 21:21:20 GMT
The best calmer I have used is one by Equine Herbals and I think it is called Equi-Calm - we had a TB at our yard who was a bit nutting in the box gave some of this and worked wonders - I really recommend their products as all the ones we have used are amazing!! It is a liquid and you only give a small amount about 20ml for a big horse. equineherbals.com/products/equicalm.html |
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Post by Steph on Sept 23, 2008 22:20:11 GMT
A friend who's horse was on a year's boxrest(!) was advised to use a magnesium based calmer and it worked really well - he went from trying to jump out to happily his hay. She might just need time to get used to you some like to try you out a bit to see what they can get away with. Good luck x
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Post by racaille on Sept 24, 2008 5:05:37 GMT
Dear God, a year's box rest !!!!!  Have absolutley no experience of calmers ( so I'm a lot of use, eh! ;D) We always tackle hysterical horses by adjusting their feeding regime. Like Brig and Tory I'd knock off the hard feed. Only three of our competion horses are getting hard feed at the moment, all the others are thriving on lots of hay and luzerne hay (because it's around). But you've got grass in the UK so you wouldn't need the luzerne - although is autumn grass full of sugar? Can't remember .... |
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Post by fimacg on Sept 24, 2008 11:43:00 GMT
I don't know much about calmers, but I knew 2 horses who went loopy if on anything with molasses in, most horse feeds contain this so if she calms down if you knock out all hard feed but then feel like you need to reintroduce something - do it one at a time and try to find something unmolassed.
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Post by Steph on Sept 24, 2008 17:11:25 GMT
Dear God, a year's box rest !!!!! yeah not the best especially when the vet says two months max! |
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Post by chiefsmyboy on Sept 24, 2008 17:45:36 GMT
knock her off hard feed and just feed something like alfa hay and sugarbeet- more so she thinks shes getting a feed and to carry her foot powder. She sounds as though she needs some really steady calm riding- forget the schooling until she trusts you more and hack hack hack= lots of trotting to get the tickle out of her toes! She looks a sweet mare who has been spoiled by careless riding! Totally agree but would also add Baileys Lo-Cal Balancer then you know she's getting all the vitamins, minerals, etc that's needed plus she'll think she's getting a hard feed. I use this on my Chief as he's a good doer but still needs his vitamins. |
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Post by minnie on Sept 24, 2008 23:09:50 GMT
Hi my daughters pont is very highly strung and we have tried Blue chip clmer nd are presently feeding magic......blue chip was okay for a while then began to havve no effect, same with n]magic...we were advised by a ex racehorse trainer to try something called Kalms from the herabilist shop....we did and OMG they were fantasic, that and rescue remedy from tescos, or other supermarkets..we yse the RR just before a show and the Kalms on a daily basis...i strongly recommend the Kalms
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Post by hazelin on Oct 4, 2008 22:27:59 GMT
I have tried lots of calmers for my mare but now stick with Steady Up which seems to work the best for her
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Post by fleabitten on Oct 5, 2008 11:48:45 GMT
I tried Horse First Relax Me for Princess but it didnt make a pick of difference.
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Post by brigadier on Oct 5, 2008 19:24:53 GMT
Hi my daughters pont is very highly strung and we have tried Blue chip clmer nd are presently feeding magic......blue chip was okay for a while then began to havve no effect, same with n]magic...we were advised by a ex racehorse trainer to try something called Kalms from the herabilist shop....we did and OMG they were fantasic, that and rescue remedy from tescos, or other supermarkets..we yse the RR just before a show and the Kalms on a daily basis...i strongly recommend the Kalms Ive used rescue remedy for flying and also for the horse to smell amd it DOES work, but Kalms? the ones in the tube? Must try them for myself!!! |
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Post by FirenLady on Oct 18, 2008 18:23:45 GMT
Ive used rescue remedy for flying and also for the horse to smell amd it DOES work, but Kalms? the ones in the tube? Must try them for myself!!![/quote]
I am absoultly petrified at even the prospect of flying. are rescue remedys that good?
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Post by glenfiddichlady on Nov 4, 2008 20:46:59 GMT
Feed wise why don't you try her on something like either Alfa-A Oringal chaff or Dengie Oil and maybe Calm & Condition by Allen & Page? and see how she goes, if she's still slighty nutty try her on Naffs Magic Calmer! Have used it before on my friends rather lively TBx and it worked really well.. I wouldn't go for something like Oxyshot as that is just like a worming paste meant for chiling them for like of farrier/dentist/shoeing/loading I would go for a supplement!
If your really not sure see if you can speak to someone from either your local feed shop or feed suppliers that are expersenced on feeding n see what they suggest for you mare!
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