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Post by salexis on May 4, 2008 19:30:55 GMT
hi
I would like to start using trotting poles as a precursor of starting to jump with my 15.3hh trotter.
Can people advise roughly how many average strides between poles I should have for trotting, is it 4?
many thanks for any guidance
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Post by kateflashy on May 4, 2008 19:37:50 GMT
i normally do 3 just slightly larger then normal strides between
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Post by salexis on May 4, 2008 19:41:56 GMT
many thanks kateflashy
I'll let you know how we get on tm!
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Post by brigadier on May 4, 2008 19:46:53 GMT
HI dont forget- use one, three or more poles- this is so the horse strides in between and doesnt try to step over two at a time, canter poles are between 9-11 feet or approx three strides.
brig
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Post by Maes Seren on May 4, 2008 20:05:07 GMT
Trotting poles are spaced at 5 fairy steps or one normal stride and one fairy step. ;D
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Post by salexis on May 5, 2008 21:13:40 GMT
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Post by duckles on May 5, 2008 21:43:34 GMT
looked pretty good to me, trot was calm at the poles although she looked a bit tense before. She landed on the correct leg and cantered smoothly away . I suppose (if you are looking for faults) you could have given her head a little more and she could have been straighter but for a horse learning to jump I think its excellant. She's beautiful by the way
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Post by kateflashy on May 6, 2008 16:35:39 GMT
looks good mine either trip over them or act like there 6 ft high
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Post by maximum on May 6, 2008 17:12:31 GMT
oh I was thinking I had second sight salexisj and realised I seened them on french trotters!!
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Post by aimee on May 6, 2008 17:41:12 GMT
I couldn't see any major faults, I thought it went really well. And I agree your horse is a beauty! Sorry to steal your topic Salexisj, But is it true that if you take away every other trot pole this makes them canter poles? Want to try them with Fern but by the time I dismount and re space and step them all out again she aint interested anymore! So was just wondering if that was an easier way to do them? Also how many steps away from the pole can you put a jump? Sorry again just didn't want to make a double post  |
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Post by Maes Seren on May 6, 2008 21:37:21 GMT
If you approach out of canter, id use 3 normal strides for a pole - then its pole, one canter stride, jump. Thats what i did with Gem today. For trot ... i cant remember!  I think its one and a half normal strides. As for distancing the poles, you could just set them out as canter poles, but trot over them, then canter? |
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Post by aimee on May 6, 2008 22:09:28 GMT
Oh yeah! I forgot you can trot over canter pole! *slaps forehead* Will try that tomorrow
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Post by maximum on May 7, 2008 20:11:33 GMT
for canter poles about 12 foot - 16 foot depends on your horses length of stride. ( so one person stride is 3 foot = 4 strides for 12 foot)
if you are talking about a placing pole in front of a jump it is 9 foot (3 person strides) and aim to approach in trot and canter over the pole- a lot of people think you canter between the pole and jump which wont work!
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Post by brigadier on May 8, 2008 17:33:55 GMT
Hi Maxie- your canter poles seem a bit long to me, I usually go on to raise the canter poles to make a grid and about eleven feet max (just over three strides ) is plenty even for a long striding horse.
It gets complicated with metres but about 3.2m I think is about the same distance!
Brig
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Post by maximum on May 8, 2008 18:22:21 GMT
Yeah you are right but I use them very much as a tool to lengthen the canter and I suppose I am used to a long striding horse. Its not something I would actually use very often so am happy to defer!!
If you were building a bounce fence what would you have it as?
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Post by brigadier on May 8, 2008 20:35:04 GMT
Hi
Depends on horse but if its well schooled then 3.5m which really encourages the horse to use itself properly but I would lenghthen this slightly for a more novicey horse and if I was doing a course for riding club etc.
Have you ever read Stephen Hadleighs Training the Showjumper= its my jumping bible- he uses 3.5m 7.5m and 11.5m as his standard distances with variations to prove more testing- he doesnt really go shorter than 3.5 though.
When do you think I should do poles and jumps with Basil, weve not established canter yet but his trot work is doing ok?
Brig
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Post by maximum on May 8, 2008 20:57:30 GMT
I think I might have that book got it in a job lot, must dig it out!
I personally use trot poles to improve the trot and from quite early on.
As I said dont do much canter pole work but maybe I should!
I start jumping from trot just to slow it all down and have a bit more control but really prefer them to have a canter ( max being the exception because we might never get there!) just because it is easier for them to take off in canter rather than trot as they have 2 back legs to push off rather than the one. - Lucinda Green explains it well in her xc clinics which were on horse and country tv.
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Post by brigadier on May 8, 2008 21:24:14 GMT
Yes I saw those clinics and youve brought that bit back, may just do poles and leave the jumps until weve got a canter established.
cheers my dear!
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Post by fleabitten on May 10, 2008 11:28:23 GMT
Nice jump - i wish princess would do that!! she just trots normally into it and then pings over it, then canters off quite fast. will have to get some pics of me riding her (not very well!!) so you can see how she goes
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Post by Maes Seren on May 10, 2008 11:40:30 GMT
Fleabitten, im not sure what you aim to improve, i presume either the approach/get away but gridwork would help...
*mutters under breath, gridwork helps all horses but mine cos shes awkward grrrr*
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for so much hard work we thank ye!!
I think its one and a half normal strides.
