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Post by vickii on Jul 11, 2008 16:31:59 GMT
strong horses get on my nerves, i don't know what to do now, i am fine riding the smaller strong ponies but whenever i get on something bigger than 15hh and it is strong i dont like it, i dont know why, i find it harder to stop them.
Its ok but gets annoying when the whole lesson they are either pulling in your hands so your fingers hurt like hell, or they just wont stop.
i have tried everything, i dont get tense so it wont be that, i dont hang on their mouth so it wont be that, i have no idea anymore..
..please help!
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Post by FirenLady on Jul 11, 2008 19:22:39 GMT
Its a tough one. I excercised my friends pony for her when she had a car accident. I asked him to canter where she normally does and he took off like a rocket! I honestly couldn't stop him. In the end i had to used my whole body as lever to get him steady up. Which was a complete shock to my system when my boy responds to voice.
Dunno if half halts might help to check them? perhaps circling so they know tanking off doesn't get them anywhrere faster.
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Post by brigadier on Jul 11, 2008 19:38:39 GMT
Hi Vickii
you say you are not pulling on his mouth so its not a case of the horse pulling back! I think Kylie has hit the nail on the head- half halts- probably of varying degrees to see what works.
The strong horses Ive ridden will usually respond well to holding the reins as though attached with cotton and too much pressure will break it- then if needed a short pull to grab their attention then hold the reins light again. Ive known some real bolters that have been rideable like this. One horse that had a habit of bolting as soon as he got into the school was best left to really stretch and work- I would get off his back jockey style and ride with my hands low and wide and let him really stride out then as he started to relax and slow I would push him into a contact- he got his confidence in me like this and never bolted with me but unfortunately he did with plenty of others. I think he was just scared basically and knew not much would happen if he tanked off. Give it a try and let us know how it goes!
brig
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Post by sherr002 on Jul 11, 2008 19:54:44 GMT
hmm mine is strong and i have found that if she tries to take off with me then circles getting smaller gets her to stop
other than that just have a firm contact (not hanging) and when they have had the expolsive start (which tabs does) keep your leg on and relax your hands and they should calm down a bit
hope this helps
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Post by racaille on Jul 12, 2008 6:48:29 GMT
The mad mare at the club can be calmed down out of her hysterical rushing around everywhere by riding small circles in (english?) deplacement lateral (shoulder in???) anyway, so that she has to cross her back legs. This gets her thinking, so she gives up the hystrionics and starts working normally.
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Post by vickii on Jul 13, 2008 10:42:57 GMT
thanks every1,
brig i tried doing what yoiu said and riding with my hands really soft, it works well with most of the horses i ride but there is one that thinks its a chance to put his head down and pull me with him, so i tried with giving him quick half halts to remind him that he has to listen, but he just gets stronger and stronger, i think i must have a "hot seat" on him because it is only me who he does it with.. its really odd!!
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Post by brigadier on Jul 13, 2008 20:31:04 GMT
HI Vickii
as you are new I dont know what level you are at- but with this horse you need to give him something to think about- can you do shoulder in? If so, ride him a few strides shoulder in left then half halt and shoulder in right- then go soft with your hands- if he pulls your hands down then half halt and do the shoulder ins again- be persistant and he will soon learn that pulling and going strong means work! Very few horses can get strong when asked for shoulder in! give it a try and let us know how this works.
Brig
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Post by abi on Jul 16, 2008 12:42:27 GMT
have you tried squeesing your hands instead of pulling? sounds like it would never work but mine resents any mouth pressure so if you have hard hands or pull she goes faster, if you literally squeese your hands around the reins she'll stop easy. x
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Post by vickii on Jul 16, 2008 18:37:24 GMT
nah i ont pull his mouth i o sqeeze but he desn listen, his mouth is so un sensitive. and brig ye ill try some shoulder in, do you think other things such and turns on the forehand and travair ect wouldwork too?  |
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Post by brigadier on Jul 16, 2008 20:35:46 GMT
Hi Vickii
anything to keep him thinking and you using your legs to generate bend and collection- do them at walk first, then as he understands your aids try a little trot. Once you get confident and he starts to tow you a bit you can pop in a half halt then a lateral movement, then a small circle which will get him listening to you and not intent on rushing forward and leaning on your hand. Let us know how it goes.
Brig
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Post by chellebean on Jul 17, 2008 22:35:43 GMT
sorry to kinda butt in this but i need help too!! what would people advise, i have been riding on and off a lovely highland pony! i do really love him to bits but i took him out on a hack the other day (1st hack in 4 years). he is not ridden often and therefore used to munching on the old green stuff more then working. i had a real problem out on the hack where he would throw his head up and then down to the ground whilst we were going along! does any one know of a way of helping him to get out of the habit without using grass reins (not sure his owner would like that)? I have been pondering the idea of schooling in a paddock to see if we can get passed it tho!
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Post by vickii on Jul 29, 2008 17:55:40 GMT
dont let him eat, every time he puts his head down pull his head back to you straigt away to let him know he cannot do this. i there is a pecific place he does this try trotting past it so he doesnt get the chance.
let me know how this goes.
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Post by fleabitten on Jul 29, 2008 19:58:52 GMT
As soon as he goes to throw his head up, make him trot straight away. So he has something else to think about. Try this to see and let me know.
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Post by chellebean on Jul 29, 2008 21:56:59 GMT
dont let him eat, every time he puts his head down pull his head back to you straigt away to let him know he cannot do this. i there is a pecific place he does this try trotting past it so he doesnt get the chance. let me know how this goes. Unfortunatly it doesnt seem to matter where he is, he will try any time!! been pondering grass reins but his owner wont let me so need another way!! he is to unfit to trot everywhere at the mo and my confidence isn't up to it's usual standed!! will have to find another way  |
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Post by fleabitten on Jul 30, 2008 10:30:46 GMT
Well you only have to trot until he stops messing - so he associates eating whilst being ridden with having to do something hard. Then you can walk again.
Try and keep his mind active on hacks by doing lots of transitions - halt to walk - walk so many steps then halt. Zig zag across the path or road.
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Post by chellebean on Jul 30, 2008 11:36:13 GMT
Thanks Fleabitten, will give it ago tomorrow I felt really useless and silly when he kept doing it! got really annoyed with myself... but will keep trying |
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Post by fleabitten on Jul 30, 2008 16:59:45 GMT
No dont feel useless!! Anybody would be pulled forward and find it difficult to get back up - its easier if he just sticks it down as you can brace and he just sticks his nose into his chest - but if he puts it up and then wrenches it down, then you are snookered. Youre gonna be lying on his neck! it will happen to ANYONE. |
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Post by chellebean on Jul 30, 2008 19:43:15 GMT
He has been abit of a monster, doesn't help he is the only pony I've fallen off of tho either lol. will keep going with him tho |
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Post by Becca on Jul 31, 2008 16:00:59 GMT
schooling in a paddock might be good idea. Or you can buy nose nets for dust and flys that go over the muzzle, you could cut a big enough gap for the reins to move freely but he wont be able to eat through it www.forestviewequestrian.com/aerborn-nose-net-205-p.aspbare in mind he may have a strop when he realises it |
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Post by chellebean on Aug 1, 2008 12:54:21 GMT
sorry Vickii, I seem to have hijacked your thread!!!! Oops! Becca- that sounds like an idea! will give it ago after trotting him every where he tries to eat  |
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