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Post by ceej on Jul 8, 2008 18:01:54 GMT
Harry has come in proper lame tonight  I think its laminitis for two reasons...one of them being the digital pulse but can you just tell me exactly where it is so i know if I am looking inthe right place (waiting for a call from the vet, int he meantime bought both in) Digital pulse where i looked is in the back quarter of the pastern where there are two dips just under the fetlock...defo felt pulse there. Vet just called he is coming out...suspects an absyss :  OMFg I knew things were going too well. |
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Post by rebanna on Jul 8, 2008 18:07:04 GMT
dont panic is his feet hot as well around the corenet band? roo had a absyss was back in work in 5 days it's not that bad hun (((((((hugs)))))))))
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Post by ceej on Jul 8, 2008 18:11:11 GMT
not overly hot...not that you would notice...he found it really uncomfortable to turn a circle on his lame side.
Willow gets lami and does look different...Harry looked lame not tottery....
god I just hope it aint lami. What causes absyss? (not quite sure I am spelling that right?!
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Post by rebanna on Jul 8, 2008 18:14:06 GMT
im not the person to ask about spelling roo got a little cut on her sole they came out and cut it all away realy deep but i just polticed it every day and she was not lame by day 2 and i was riding her by day 5
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Post by finefilly on Jul 8, 2008 18:40:53 GMT
beauty had an abcess a few years ago. we call it gravel round here! she was hopping lame but not that much heat. i soaked her foot in warm salty water for a few days and the pus escaped just above her coronet. poor little mite! hope he is ok! big hugs xx
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Post by ceej on Jul 8, 2008 19:44:51 GMT
well it was a absyss...phew....
had a bruise right at the back...we caught it early and absyss still deep and 'immature' as the vet put it...he dug as deep as he could go but didnt reach it, and we have poulticed it...hopefully that will pull it out but if not he has to come back and dig again when it has matured...
Cor its gonna cost me a pretty packet for tonight. Ouch. I am just really glad its not lami..
He has to be in for the rest of the week - he is going to go spare. Do you recon he woudl be ok for an hour in the evening in the grass sand school? (soft but he can have abit of grass) surely if his bandage is ok in a wee and pooey stable it woudl be ok in the school for an hour...? what do ee recon?
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Post by kateflashy on Jul 8, 2008 19:48:55 GMT
if you can keep it clean and dry a bit of a leg stretch wont do any harm , in fact it will prob help keep swelling down
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Post by rebanna on Jul 8, 2008 19:51:01 GMT
as long as u have a strong banadage on it, it's fine and it's dry
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Post by aimee on Jul 8, 2008 20:32:37 GMT
I let Fern out every day for an hour or so while I done her stable...not much fun trying to tackle a stable where a poo and wee bomb had exploded while manouvering around her!
I really think its good for them morally to have a stretch and a graze as long as they dont act silly.
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Post by zara on Jul 8, 2008 20:59:41 GMT
Could be much worse ceej. My old mare had a few abcesses, once it has drained pack the "hole" tightly with cotton wool soaked in iodine or something similar, it will keep it clean even when out in mud. When you change it it, pull it out and flush with saline or better still hydrogen peroxide using a syringe, rinse and re- pack. if you need a syringe let me know and I'll send you one Zx
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Post by haffyfan on Jul 8, 2008 21:06:45 GMT
So glad it's not the dreaded lami ceej, bit sigh of relief. Do you have a pltice boot or a hoof boot? If so I would clean it out, poltice, cover, and put a boot on and chuck him out...moving around helps the draining I was told and Murph won't stop in anyhow. I put a placcy bag around the bandage to keep everything clean and dry when murph has had them as his hoof boots let in/out water (for drainage purposes)
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Post by jack on Jul 8, 2008 21:37:18 GMT
when jack had his abcess we didnt have a stable so he was living out just had a poltice and a feed bag straped on and we did the warm salt water 3x a day his was very deep seated it was nearly 3 weeks before it came out and he was very lame vet checked him every few days as we were worried that it would go up the leg
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Post by florence on Jul 8, 2008 22:15:10 GMT
Could be much worse ceej. My old mare had a few abcesses, once it has drained pack the "hole" tightly with cotton wool soaked in iodine or something similar, it will keep it clean even when out in mud. When you change it it, pull it out and flush with saline or better still hydrogen peroxide using a syringe, rinse and re- pack. if you need a syringe let me know and I'll send you one Zx That's exactly how I treated the one my horse had. I also put an equi boot on him and turned him out. He was fine like that. As with any wound, the trick is to keep it clean. Must've been such a relief it's not lami! This weather seems to have got us all convinced our horses are going to get it! |
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Post by Becca on Jul 9, 2008 8:50:29 GMT
Exactly what happened to bern not long ago! The vet couldn't get to his abcess either but the tiniest bit of pus came out on the first night and even with just that he felt better. Bern stayed in for 2 days, then out for half days for about 5 days then full days gor about 3 then back to normal all with his boa boots on. MY EP told me its the weather, really wet then really dry caused cracking then the dirt gets it and bam - abscess. The vet told me nothing, she was pants
Also buy own brand nappies and wrap them round the foot then use the vet wrap then nice thick layer of duct tape! soooooooooo much cheaper, i did use proper poultice for the first few days though
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Post by Becca on Jul 9, 2008 8:51:20 GMT
oh and give harry a big cuddle from us, that helps too  |
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Post by joandlad on Jul 9, 2008 9:54:18 GMT
Ceej - You should have given me a ring! Good advice above. If you can keep it covered and clean he is definitely better off out. The pus is natures way of clearing out infection. It will want to come out and walking about will help it on its way. Don't just poltice the hole that the vet dug out, politce right over the coronary band and heels (if it's at the back). These are the most common abscess exit routes. If you can get it to come out of its own accord it will heal much better than if it's dug out.
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Post by ceej on Jul 9, 2008 10:25:19 GMT
thanks you lot....jo I am terrible when my horse is lame...I rang the vet and couldn't even remember Harry's name!!  Everyone I have spoken to says the farrier should come next time - be much cheaper. But at least Harry got his tetanus! Thanks for the offer of a syringe zara  we got some here I think.... Haffy I bought a poultice boot this morning (green like old new zealand rug material and black waterproof sole). I am not meant to change the current poultice til thurs am (does that sound right?). The vet just had a warm wet animalintex pad and elastoplast bandage on the outside - he covered all the heel area with it though. Does that sound ok, or is there anything else i can do to help it next time I change it? I think I will put Harry out for the evening int he school with his new boot and IF it stays on, come and let him out for the afternoon tomorrow... How long will he need his foot bandaged then (or is that a how long is a piece of string question?!) Tricky thing is I am moving him on Saturday where he will be with a new horse and probably lots of trotting about Maybe I should see if I can put it off another week? That would be difficult though coz the other girl has given notice on her yard. |
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Post by trojanwarrior on Jul 9, 2008 10:56:26 GMT
I change poultices twice a day. Once they've gone cold they're not really doing that much with regards to drawing out the pus. I read somewhere that if you cover the poultice with a piece of aluminium foil then it helps to keep the heat in for a little bit longer. I would also keep it covered with a dry dressing until the hoof has hardened.
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Post by Becca on Jul 9, 2008 11:36:21 GMT
not to change till thurs? thats odd. I was told twice daily too. plus exactly what TW said, when you aren't getting anything out of the foot change to dry poultice/nappy just to keep it clean and so it dries out. then when it is off completelymaybe fill with keratex if you have some
As for moving, is there no where to keep him on for a few days? i wouldn't be worried about the trotting hurting more the bandage coming off and the hole getting dirty
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Post by ceej on Jul 9, 2008 11:44:00 GMT
Hmmm, it does sound like a long time. Maybe I shoudl ring the vets to make sure? Do you think some magnesium sulphate would help?
I am not too worried about the bandage coming off if I use elastoplast, and then vet wrap and then a poultice boot!!!!
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Post by jack on Jul 9, 2008 11:44:01 GMT
i was told 2x a day though i did it 3x a day because it was so deep seated
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Post by scattymare on Jul 9, 2008 12:15:20 GMT
Whem Doof had her last one I was told by the vet to keep on for 36 hours. But in the past I'd been told to change them twice a day. Keep doing them until you can't see any black pus stuff. I had Doof out with it - put Duck tape all over foot which kept it clean and dry.
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Post by ceej on Jul 9, 2008 12:23:27 GMT
trouble is he didnt get to any pus...it was too deep |
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Post by trojanwarrior on Jul 9, 2008 14:58:27 GMT
You could always tub it as well as poulticing to try & draw it closer to the bottom of the hoof so that the vet can dig it out.
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Post by Becca on Jul 9, 2008 15:23:18 GMT
when my vet came she couldn't get deep enough to hit pus but she mus have been close as in the morning it had burst through where she had been digging. the idea of the poultice was to soften the foot so she could dig more, don't know if the vet mentioned that at all?
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I think its laminitis for two reasons...one of them being the digital pulse but can you just tell me exactly where it is so i know if I am looking inthe right place (waiting for a call from the vet, int he meantime bought both in) 
OMFg I knew things were going too well.
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Always saddle your own horse
Everyone I have spoken to says the farrier should come next time - be much cheaper. But at least Harry got his tetanus!
we got some here I think....
