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Post by racaille on May 19, 2016 10:27:48 GMT
Not too soon to start planning for the championnats and will need to take a first aid kit. What am I missing from this list?
Betadine red (for washing wounds)
Betadine gel (for smearing on wounds/keeping flies out)
Animalintex
Scissors
Bandages
Nappies
Sudocrem (generally brilliant for all sorts)
Vasaline
Aluminium foil (for tack rubs - no new gear going but you never know ....)
Rasp
Spare shoe nails + hammer
Hoof boots for emergency/poulticing
Eye drops
Thermometer
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Post by zara on May 19, 2016 13:02:02 GMT
I'd add gamgee, tape, non-adherent dressings, syringe for flushing wounds (bladder syringes are great), clean tub for saline, Danilon (bute) and some cold water boots for sore / injured legs. I recently bought some and once activated they just need submerging in cold water for 20 mins and then they can be applied. I got these: www.lemieuxproducts.com/boots-bandages/cold-water-boots/procool-cold-water-boots and Premier Equine do some very similar. You can never be too organised xx
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Post by racaille on May 19, 2016 13:29:51 GMT
Good thoughts there: tape and non-stick dressings ... what is gamgee?
We don't do bute here; we use aspirin instead so I'll add the 1kg pot I have downstairs (always makes me laugh that in the UK you can't buy more than a few pills when I have so much down in my tack room!)
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Post by zara on May 19, 2016 14:02:07 GMT
Gamgee is cotton wool roll that has a thin gauze covering which makes it bit harder wearing under bandages etc x
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Post by brigadier on May 19, 2016 14:58:32 GMT
Gaffa tape or gorilla tape, sun cream, anti histamine cream, re hydration salts, trailer to tow it all in!!
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Post by racaille on May 19, 2016 17:16:59 GMT
Sun cream? More like waterproofs if last time was anything to go by! But yes, all good thoughts.
I wasn't going to bother with electrolytes as we will break the trip half way but it's a good thought, will take anyway.
Zara, don't think I need a syringe or basin, we always cold hose, the more the better. Researching the cold water boots ... here we put argile/clay on their tendons. Is that something you do?
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Post by zara on May 19, 2016 19:21:06 GMT
Cooling gels, clay etc all very good but boots are far less messy! Cold hosing is great but syringes can get sterile fluid exactly where it's needed xx
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Post by pboy on May 20, 2016 6:03:14 GMT
Gosh I hope you have a big car! Clay is generally not viewed as good any more - while it briefly cools the legs it then keeps them too hot, which is bad for the tendons. Eventers I know tend to use the cooling boots these days. It's all a lot fancier than my teenage days as an event groom!
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Post by racaille on May 20, 2016 8:11:46 GMT
Wow, that is good to know! Think a pair of those boots will be require, oh, but four would be needed?
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Post by pboy on May 20, 2016 8:45:08 GMT
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Post by racaille on May 20, 2016 9:54:20 GMT
That is really interesting! EVERYONE down here uses clay but I shall chuck ours out. I will get some cool boots instead
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Post by pboy on May 20, 2016 13:48:47 GMT
I think the research into the effects of heat on tendons is fairly recent so maybe it just hasn't reached competitors there yet?! I very much doubt you'd see many at Pau 4* using it though!
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Post by racaille on May 23, 2016 8:55:36 GMT
Given that they are quite costly, how many times can you use the boots?
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Post by solomon on May 23, 2016 9:00:55 GMT
Can I just ask how the aluminium foil works for tack tubs?
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Post by racaille on May 23, 2016 9:09:20 GMT
Can I just ask how the aluminium foil works for tack tubs? Lol, it is an old randonneurs tricks Sol. If there is a bit of tack that is causing a rub, you wrap the bit of leather or whatever in aluminium fail, as smoothly as possible. This eases the friction and aids healing (like aluspray although I am not a fan ). It is an emergency measure for if you are out on long-distance rando, for example, rather than a long term fix. Of course you should never be in the position of having ill fitting tack (hmm, saw quite a few too-tight breastplates yesterday) but if you need to get down from a mountain with no other solution, it works. Can't really see why I would need it at the champs, but you never know. When Paco put the hole in his back last summer and I was going to the Ardeche I put a layer of foil between his back and the saddlecloth and it meant there was little friction over the wound (I also cut a hole in the cloth). It worked.
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Post by solomon on May 23, 2016 9:19:25 GMT
Did you stick it to the saddle cloth? It's a really good tip. I have never seen it done. Pete gets saddle rubs every winter where his weird hind limb action causes his winter coat to rub out. I am presently using ridiculous amounts of dead sheep between me and him. Maybe I just need foil?
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Post by racaille on May 23, 2016 11:09:27 GMT
I only put a small patch of foil over the hole or it would have been a bit boil in the bag I just tucked it in as best i could, not stuck snd it did fall out from time to time as it was just on the edge of the saddlecloth. Might work for Pete as long as it's just a small area and not for too long - it really is an in extremis measure.
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Post by racaille on May 23, 2016 12:55:39 GMT
I have been looking into cooling boots and there is quitea lot of web chatter about ease of use, particularly away from home. A lot of people seem to prefer a cooling gel. Thoughts please?
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Post by zara on May 23, 2016 19:56:24 GMT
The boots can be used over and over, all you need is a bucket of cold water and they're very easy to apply and less messy than gel imo x
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Post by meandmyconnie on Aug 27, 2016 9:16:52 GMT
My thoughts on cooling boots are as follows - They're great for at home but are unnecessary bulk when not very much room (i know how much is needed to pack for champs ) There no better than cooling gel frankly unless your horse/pony rubs off the gel. I would try some liniment (spelling probably incorrect) and either bathe his legs in it or just rub it in over main muscle tissue and cannon bone area. Hope this helped x
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