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Post by brigadier on Dec 14, 2015 11:34:39 GMT
So struggling with Harriet a bit. She is in a softer bit, Ive changed saddles. She is all checked over an hunky dory, she is starting to go a little better now and yesterday we had no silly stroppy bits and on the whole she stayed calm. But Ive had to take her right back to very slow trotting- hardly covering ground (which goes against everything I know) so that she doesnt race, she goes deep anyhow so it is reminiscent of those horses that have been ridden in draw reins but hardly move forward but at least like this I can keep her calm. Im hoping it helps her become more steady and listen to me more. She is also striking off correctly on the left again (more or less) so I am making progress. But I do wonder if I will get her to a dressage comp, chances are Welly will get to one first which given where he was six months ago and where she was 12 months ago is ridiculous. Was looking back to the vids just after she was broken and my heart aches. I know where it has gone wrong and I am at fault but being wise in hindsight doesn't help really does it?
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Post by racaille on Dec 14, 2015 11:42:27 GMT
Is this because of your lay-off and her being ridden by J? I think you said she didn't like him. It sounds pretty dispiriting but you know you can get her back on track in time. But do you have enough time? Could/would you sell her on and concentrate on Welly?
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Post by brigadier on Dec 14, 2015 12:49:20 GMT
She went through a silly stage Rac where she knew it all so would rush off the leg. I had just worked her through that when I got back from Ireland so work then was pretty inconsistent and we had some very fresh rides, mainly because I rode very sporadically because my finger hurt too much but it was going ok, but then when J started riding her she went back to the silly stage and became more set in what she was doing , also got a real strop about left canter lead. She really resented his feel on the rein and I suppose because Im not strong in the hands I have never ridden her strong. There was a time or two she had a sore mouth. But still I persisted because I wanted it to come right but it just didnt. Consequently I am now trying to re-establish her trust in the hand and her calmness. Again Ive had one or two fresh rides but the last one was the calmest yet although she rides the inside shoulder a touch. It was the vids that made me so sad. No I wont sell her, Im more likely to put her in foal if she doesn't come right . Floss will be for sale shortly, probably in the spring. I have Welly or even Harriet for Beak to ride (he has great hands- just needs to remember horses aren't machines- but he is getting there)
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Post by pboy on Dec 14, 2015 13:19:18 GMT
Hang on in their Brig! I'm sure she'll come right again and training horses always feels a bit 'one step forward, two steps backwards'. My RI was saying how wobbly her 4yo is having only had a month off, whereas before she wouldn't have looked out of place at an affiliated novice competition. Re: the slow trot, it's a completely valid training technique IMO! My RI had Indio and I doing it for at least two months - she referred to it as a 'bumbling trot', It allowed him to find his balance and slowly build the strength and muscle to sustain his balance and correct way of working once we got to more forward, advanced work. It seems to be paying off. It's also worth a look at some of Jean Luc Cornille's stuff, he refers to it as the 'Pignot jog': www.scienceofmotion.com/documents/quolibet_z_part_2.htmlCould her initial rushing have been down to a lack of strength and balance rather than thingyiness, do you think? |
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Post by solomon on Dec 14, 2015 15:09:47 GMT
Wish Pete could manage a collected or slow trot! Ground work and long reining again? Give her confidence a boost?
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Post by brigadier on Dec 14, 2015 15:50:19 GMT
oooo! Thanks Pboy, will look at this, maybe my gut was right as I felt I had to re-establish control and calmness. Im not sure whether it was a lack of balance as she has always had fabulous natural balance. It first started with leg yield, she got it so as soon as I asked she would go for it big style.....and as Im typing this Im beginning to wonder....hmmm glad I posted this, the fresh perspective is helping.
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Post by haffyfan on Dec 15, 2015 17:57:00 GMT
That's a really interesting Link pboy thanks.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing, i think it's up and down with horses anyhow, they mirror our moods/feelings too so well and this is magnified with youngsters/green ones all the more.
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Post by brigadier on Dec 15, 2015 21:35:54 GMT
Wish Pete could manage a collected or slow trot! Ground work and long reining again? Give her confidence a boost? Sol with most horses would do that but she won't long rein, it scares the pants off her!! (She is a funny one!)And she lunges beautifully, very obedient. It's a rider issue so got to be on top. |
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Post by solomon on Dec 16, 2015 11:10:11 GMT
How interesting. Why do you think she is frightened of long reins? Pete thinks they are a bit dull. Good exercise for him when he is too forward. Slows him down.
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Post by brigadier on Dec 16, 2015 11:22:03 GMT
She doesnt like the lack of sight and contact- the last time I tried she galloped off with me, fortunately she was in the arena. Its ok whilst Im slightly to the side so she has eyes on but as soon as I go behind she gets scared- looks for me then panics. funny old mare! Should see her with the automatic water bowl in her stable....but that's another story!
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