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Post by BJTequestrian on Nov 11, 2012 17:28:52 GMT
Was wondering if anybody could explain what some things on my horses passport mean - On the front of my TBs passport it has a big sticker with LOT 295 written on it in pen, underneath are a few dates what have been crossed out i.e 14/11/02 etc any ideas as to what that could mean? My first idea (which is probably completely wrong) was that maybe he's been in an auction before and the numbers have something to do with that - you can tell i have never been to a horse auction before! Also he has a 'stud book reference', i have searched google but i havent found a clear answer as to what this is  One website says that a studbook lists all known horses of a certain breed and another defination explains that a stud book lists horses available for breeding  I have a horrible feeling this is a really silly question with an obvious answer buuuut - what exactly is a stud book and what does it mean if he has a stud book reference? He is a gelding but there is no certificate of castrations like my other two geldings have. There is just a stamp which says 'gelded since registration' |
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Post by brigadier on Nov 11, 2012 18:10:41 GMT
The sticker is an auction lot, so he has been through an auction at some point, the crossed out dates could be anything, maybe something to do with the auction dates but could actually just be someone writing notes on the front and nothing to do with your horse. The stud book for TBs is Weatherbys, you could make a general enquiry there about him, if he was bred/registered for racing then he will be on the racing post website and you can find his racing history on that.
He is registered somewhere as the gelded since registered statement means he was entered in the studbook as entire ie a colt but since then he was gelded. This is standard for TBs. Whats his registered name?
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Post by BJTequestrian on Nov 11, 2012 18:23:35 GMT
Thank you, his name on the passport is Bandsman
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Post by BJTequestrian on Nov 11, 2012 18:39:49 GMT
I just had a look on the racing post website and he's only ran 3 races, coming 2nd in one of them
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Post by brigadier on Nov 11, 2012 18:44:29 GMT
thats interesting? Was he injured?
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Post by BJTequestrian on Nov 11, 2012 18:45:52 GMT
Yes, he has an old tendon injury from his racing days, could that be why he only ran 3 races?
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Post by brigadier on Nov 11, 2012 18:47:20 GMT
it was a point to point so there wouldnt be a record of the race.
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Post by brigadier on Nov 11, 2012 18:49:33 GMT
probably ended his career, the life of a point to pointer is a hard one unfortunately, he is lucky he ended up as a pleasure horse, how did you come across him?
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Post by BJTequestrian on Nov 11, 2012 18:55:06 GMT
Oh yes, i see now it has PTP written by it. Silly me. You'll have to excuse me, i have no idea what any of the acronyms or terminology mean, isnt point to point like a hunt?
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Post by BJTequestrian on Nov 11, 2012 19:04:42 GMT
I got him a few weeks ago after seeing his ad on preloved, he was described as a gentle giant looking for a quiet permenant home as he's been passed around quite a bit in his life. He's just what i wanted after having my confidence knocked by a succession of nasty falls a quiet older horse who's happy to plod about the countryside sounded ideal. He was born in Ireland but at some point came over to Scotland. He's a lovely boy, very laid back, just out of condition.
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Post by brigadier on Nov 11, 2012 19:28:45 GMT
point to points can be like the grand national only over less structured terrain! The horses have to be tough and many get injured. theres less prize money and less regulation so all sorts of dubious practices can occur, betting is allowed and horses are trained for races. Some of the national hunt horses and jockeys have come from a point to point background. Its big business. All PTP horses have to be qualified by attending six hunts. At one time any horse could PTP but now it has to be registered TBs, but they do tend to be the bigger. stronger types of TB. Your lad sounds lucky.
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Post by BJTequestrian on Nov 11, 2012 19:39:46 GMT
That adds up as he is a big TB - 17hh and chunky with it. Im glad he only had a very short career then, sounds as though if he hadn't injured his tendon when he did he would likely have ended up with an even worse injury down the line.
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Post by brigadier on Nov 12, 2012 8:23:14 GMT
yes, definitely, years ago I used to break and train TBs for PTP, never did the actual races though. One of the horses, a real beautiful liver chestnut got killed in training after he left me, it broke my heart as I did all six of his qualifying hunts and he was marvellous. It still brings tears to my eyes thinking about it!
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Post by ceej on Nov 12, 2012 15:04:15 GMT
This is so interesting! He sounds very lucky to have found you - how old is he now?
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Post by BJTequestrian on Nov 12, 2012 15:10:54 GMT
Its really interesting to learn all this about what he used to do, Thanks Brigadier ;D Ceej - He is 16 now, 17 in March  |
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Post by BJTequestrian on Nov 13, 2012 13:04:33 GMT
yes, definitely, years ago I used to break and train TBs for PTP, never did the actual races though. One of the horses, a real beautiful liver chestnut got killed in training after he left me, it broke my heart as I did all six of his qualifying hunts and he was marvellous. It still brings tears to my eyes thinking about it! How awful, that must have been heartbreaking for you, poor lad  |
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I have a horrible feeling this is a really silly question with an obvious answer buuuut - what exactly is a stud book and what does it mean if he has a stud book reference?
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