Thrush

[ceej]

I know we had a long topic on this on YH...I remember saying 'willow gets very mild thrush but it doesnt particularly smell nd is managed easily by good maintenance (eg picking regularly) well that was when he was in at night so woudl pick out then on nice clean dry shavings all night. Now he is out all the time but its still pretty damp + very mild and for the first time ever I smelt the smell you all been talking about. URGH.

Cant remember what you guys recommended to get rid...its not ooozing or anything just smelly.

Plus, can the other horses catch it if hoofpicks/effol is shared? I use one effol for both mine but now I think I will get separate.

PLUS...farrier commented last time that Harry has whit line disease. He said nothing to worry about and only has a tiny bit, but he didnt tell me what it acually was...did I read somewhere it was a fungal infection? If so, I want to get rid....just coz farrier says nothing to worry about I woudl rather he didnt have it...!

[brigadier]

Hi Ceej- it was a good post on YH, my horse has it- had it since I got him and its really persistant in one foot- im hoping him going barefoot may help.
However people use all sorts but someone recommended milton sterilising fluid- diluted and Ive been using that with the most success but I do alternate stuff, usually scrubbing out with hibiscrub then applying either milton, or sugical spirit or hydrogen peroxide. Ive not heard that it spreads but being fungal I suppose if it was transferred to the correct environment then it would- but I think that if the environment is correct ie damp warm and dirty (sounds like a porn movie!) then they get it anyhow. (maybe they carry the potential for it like we do!Thinking aloud)

SeedyToe- white line disease needs a farrier to expose and trim as necessary. Found this on the net but dont be too alarmed as it sounds like your farrier is on top of it!
petcaretips.net/white_line_disease.html

brig

[Becca]

Milton (diluted) or Life Data hoof disinfectant!

i was told by my EP they are the best, peroxide is good but harsh and kills the top layer of good cells leaving the perfect environment for new thrush apparently.

milton is great though 1lt bottle for £1.50 odd in tesco, or tesco own of about 60p, pop it in a spray bottle and use about twice a week

[brigadier]

Now I remeber Becca it was youuuuuu who recommended the milton- I use Tesco own too and its about the best thing Ive used!

I use a Hair dye bottle to get it right up into the crevices- theyre really good for that ( and for my grey hairs too!)
brig

[ceej]

Cool thanks...

As he is out all the time would you recommend a barrier AFTER the milton? So if I put Milton on and left him half hour, then a barrier to keep the milton safe or is a barrier bad?

do that make nee sense?

[haffyfan]

I have always used peroxide for thrush and Ceej don't worry about the seedy toe, Murph has had it since the lami but my farrier manages it. I use hoof boots always out hacking now as his white lines are flakey and wider than usual and grit tracks more easily. Just carry on being careful when you pick feet out. My farrier will sometimes tell me to to clean out Murphs grass cracks (which he also now sometimes gets since the lami) with peroxide or hoof dinfectant sometimes and if he has bad cracks we sometimes bung then with keratex putty but generally I leave alone and he keeps any holes well dug out to stop infection getting trapped and an absess forming.

[fimacg]

I use lincoln pine tar spray as a barrier for thrush, the pine acts as a sterilising agent and the tar seals it, works a treat.

The only down side is that the nozzle gets clogged up easily and they you end up with it all over you, the horse and the floor.

[brigadier]

Jun 3, 2008 16:03:59 GMT ceej said:

Cool thanks...

As he is out all the time would you recommend a barrier AFTER the milton? So if I put Milton on and left him half hour, then a barrier to keep the milton safe or is a barrier bad?

do that make nee sense?

Ive let it dry then used stockholm tar as a dressing which is antiseptic in itself. but I would make sure it is really dry before using any form of barrier as you dont want to seal in the damp

The stuff Finacg uses is similar, that and the tar are messy stuff to work with though gets everywhere and you can smell it on yourself afterwards!

brig

[wraggel]

Hi,
bit old school maybe and I dont know if or where you buy some from now but a dead cert to get rid of or treat hoof thrush is......copper crystals diluted in water, it goes a nice blue colour. Hold the horses foot up pick it out and pour into the foot some of the solution, do this a few times and its amazing. Its been years since I needed to do this but I was always suprised by the outcome. Sounds a tad James Herriot I know but has anyone else tried this.X

[topper]

I agree copper sulphate crystals are the best way of getting shut of thrush and the results are amazing. My horse has glue on shoes at the moment and the people that supply them have recommended surgical spirit as that is what is used to clean the hoof before the adhesive is applied. Both very cheap alternatives to the rather expensive `on the shelf` hoof disinfectants. BTW..copper crystals must be fully diluted before you apply them and should be diluted in a ratio of 5ml copper to 200ml water.

[wraggel]

Thank goodness some one else remembered this remedy. After I posted the copper solution thing I wondered if I'd got it right, its been so long since I used it and just like you I was always amazed at the results.
Has anyone enjoyed the results of using 'Pig oil' on tails manes and hairy legs. Its brill, cheap, nothing has to die to produce it and you only need a small amount. If you have a knotty tail its so much easier to brush through and the shine is wonderful. Its great for repelling dirt and is the best midge deterant I've ever seen. Once a midge touches a hair with oil on it it just sticks there and dies. Just spray a few squirts on, brush through and thats it.Wouldnt use it on the horses body though as oil and sunshine dont tend to mix well. X

[wraggel]

Thank goodness some one else remembered this remedy. After I posted the copper solution thing I wondered if I'd got it right, its been so long since I used it and just like you I was always amazed at the results.
Has anyone enjoyed the results of using 'Pig oil' on tails manes and hairy legs. Its brill, cheap, nothing has to die to produce it and you only need a small amount. If you have a knotty tail its so much easier to brush through and the shine is wonderful. Its great for repelling dirt and is the best midge deterant I've ever seen. Once a midge touches a hair with oil on it it just sticks there and dies. Just spray a few squirts on, brush through and thats it.Wouldnt use it on the horses body though as oil and sunshine dont tend to mix well. X (sorry this went on twice)

[brigadier]

Sounds great advice but where do you get pig oil and copper sulphate chrystals from as Id love to try them if only because they sound so good!!!!!
brig

[topper]

I dont know where to get pig oil but I am interested in getting some. Does anyone know if it would be any good at keeping goats away from horses tails. My 2 pygmy goats do like to have a chew on all of my horses tails and I have been searching for something to apply to the tail that tastes bitter to put the goats off.
I have until recently used copper sulphate crystals that we have on the farm which we use for foot baths for the cows. We now use an all in one product so I asked my vet. He made me a solution up and dropped it in when he was passing. It cost me a couple of quid so really cheap. Your local agricultural merchant will probably beable to supply the crystals aswell.

[wraggel]

Thats great to hear its still in use. Hope others try the copper thing.
Topper I think you know Eyers corn Mills they do pig oil,failing that Horse n rider get some to order but if if pop over the hill I'm at the same place as rachel (zara) I can put you some in a bottle for you to try, no probs,X

[ceej]

Jun 22, 2008 21:23:37 GMT topper said:

I dont know where to get pig oil but I am interested in getting some. Does anyone know if it would be any good at keeping goats away from horses tails. My 2 pygmy goats do like to have a chew on all of my horses tails and I have been searching for something to apply to the tail that tastes bitter to put the goats off.
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try that nail bite stuff for people - it tastes horrible but wont hurt anything.....

[topper]

Ceej...never thought of that but I have 4 horses so I think I would have to buy it by the pallet load
Wraggel, yes I know Eyres at Brough and have to go there this week so will get some. I didn`t realise you stabled on the next hill to me. I dare say you have seen the pesky goats when you have hacked out. I love them dearly but my god do they cause some trouble.
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[wraggel]

no , not pesky goats , goats are great but seen pesky peathingys tho!
Peac0cks

[topper]

Now do you mean pheasants or peafowl?

[wraggel]

Oh sorry I mean Pea c0cks but its seams this website thinks Peac0cks is a rude word so when you type it out what gets posted is peathingys. Had such alaugh about this in an earler post somewhere else on the site last week.

[topper]

I get you ;)now. I also know where you mean. Luckily we haven`t had any for awhile and I will warn you in plenty of time should we hatch any.

[popsicle]

Thats so funny the peathingys thing. Like the one where someone put S-n-i-g-g-e-r as in a laugh and It turned into (black person) This might too. lol

[wraggel]

Just incase anyone thinks Ive gone bananas, I heard about pig oil from a blacksmith and I have read it on the net in many places that gypsy's use a combination of pig oil and a paste made out of sulpher to kill mites that feed on the dry skin typically found on horses with feather. Draughtsmen ( I mean men who have draught horses) use it condition their horses feathered legs Personally I find that NOTHING works better than 'Front Line Spray' for itchy scratchy things on D. Unfortunatly its a bit pricey and you have to get it to de-flea your dog initially coz vets ' bless there hearts' cant sell it for horses so I get plenty for the dog and D gets a dose too. Seems feathered horses get a mite in their hairy bits that doesnt bother other horses. Sorry for going on but it took me years to find these things out and many a rubbed down fence, wall, posts etc

[wraggel]

Oh topper, Im so sorry I didnt know you did peac0cks, its just they are just about the only thing thats scares me and D didnt meen to be rude. Thats funny about the s-n-i-g-g-e-r. Some one said they found out about the c0ck thing when they were trying to tell someone about a favourite drink mixture of course it came out as thingytail. Of to bed now b4 OH gets ratty, if you want to try the oil b4 you buy then feel free to pop over I will leave you a bit in a bottle. X

[Becca]

Pig oil and sulpher is my fave thing! i'm always harping on about it!