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Post by spotti on Mar 12, 2009 21:02:54 GMT
Mark Rashid for president!!!  *stands up and dances* - lol. I've never actually seen/read any of his stuff so can't comment, but you lot seem to think he's good  |
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Post by Blonde Donkey on Mar 12, 2009 21:05:43 GMT
Spotti - my mum got a lot of the Mark Rashid books for B'day and crimbo and apart from when she is driving or asleep she has her nose in one of them re-reading them. She's used some techniques on Brax as she was a cow to ride (nowt nasty just used to say "i'm coming this way you either come or get off" and now she'll go wherever we ask with a smile on her face)
Well worth the pennies
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Post by spotti on Mar 12, 2009 21:07:32 GMT
Woo! Might have to investigate him (or maybe not as I might get told off for nit-picking  ) |
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Post by rebanna on Mar 12, 2009 21:13:34 GMT
haffy i teach in the morning and do behavior stuff in the afternoons evening weekends etc id love to do it full time but with the credit crutch there just isn't enough work
only read a bit of mark and he sounds good i keep meaning to buy the books
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Post by scattymare on Mar 12, 2009 21:18:12 GMT
Now I have never practised nor really paid much attention to any 'natural horsemanship' methods, be it Monty, Parelli or anything else - the main reason - the cost! What strikes me is that all of the 'alternative methods' claim to be trying to make life better for our horses, so why is all the equipment, demos etc so expensive?? I appreciate these people have to live, but what is the bigger picture - harmony with horses, or cash??
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saza60
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Post by saza60 on Mar 13, 2009 7:55:02 GMT
well people. I'm glad that a simple question like i asked started off such a rant by a few members! PASSION OR WHAT!
Anyway the reson i am wanting to do parelli with lexi is because she doesnt know who's boss and me being a first time mum(loui was preggers and we didnt know) im in way over my head. Yesterday when putting hay in the field for lexi, i was chased. Lexi with her ears flat back. all i could do was throw a haynet at her. it did stop her but i dont want to even be worried about looking behind me when im doing something in the field and go forbid if someone else got hurt by her!!
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Post by spotti on Mar 13, 2009 8:21:30 GMT
well people. I'm glad that a simple question like i asked started off such a rant by a few members! PASSION OR WHAT! Anyway the reson i am wanting to do parelli with lexi is because she doesnt know who's boss and me being a first time mum(loui was preggers and we didnt know) im in way over my head. Yesterday when putting hay in the field for lexi, i was chased. Lexi with her ears flat back. all i could do was throw a haynet at her. it did stop her but i dont want to even be worried about looking behind me when im doing something in the field and go forbid if someone else got hurt by her!! There is nothing in this world that you will find me more passionate about than animal welfare - equine welfare in particular ;D As for Lexi, how big is she now? If she's big enough to do some damage then maybe this is not the best suggestion but how about standing your ground with her? When she come charging, stand still with neutral body language and see if she still continues to be aggressive - she shouldn't do because if your body language is neutral then she shouldn't percieve you as a theat...I say shouldn...and then when she stops and starts to sniff you/stop being aggressive, stroke her and tell her she's a good girl. |
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Post by saza60 on Mar 13, 2009 8:36:08 GMT
spotti lexi is a 11 month old beast! lol she's about 14-14 2ish (havent measured her in a while) what confuses me is that i can do absolutely anything with her brush her put fly SPARY on her put her in the stable and mess with her take her on walks in the arena. she just has her naughty moments ie trying to flatten me. I did try to wait as long as i felt comfortable before i threw the haynet at her just to c what she would do and she got slightly too close for comfort! when u say neutral body language what exactly do u mean?
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Post by spotti on Mar 13, 2009 8:48:36 GMT
Make sure your shoulders are relaxed, head is slightly down and eyes are not staring straight into hers...basically just don't act like you're challenging her to a fight! (also don't look like you're going to run away from her either otherwise she'll think her "attack!" behaviour is getting the desired results). If I were you, I'd stand with my body facing her direction, but lower my head slightly and not give direct eye contact (but still watch her incase she just doesn't stop!) and just wait quietly. The theory is that if you do this body language AS SOON AS she starts charging, she should see the change and become inquisitive instead of aggressive/playful (horses are very distractable y'know ) and come over to investigate you instead of to attack you. That's the theory anyway. I've tried it with a few overly-playful-come-slightly-aggressive horses and it helped, they all stopped in their tracks and then meandered over slowly to come and sniff me. But they were all adult horses...never had a chance to play with a foal so I can't guarantee it would work the same with a playful baby. Might be worth a try though? Maybe take the haynet in as a back up though, just incase...  |
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Post by gnuton on Sept 27, 2012 15:08:38 GMT
I know I'm years past this discussion but two of my boys I brought up from babies and one of those babies was over 16+. The first thing you have to do is study herd behavior. If you think some training methods are cruel you have'nt seen the the way horses treat each other. Jazz is the herd leader and it always amazes me how he can just walk to whatever he wants, hay, water, treats etc and all the other horses step back and let him have whatever he wants. Horses will treat you like another horse. If you want a horse to be brave and come and see you make yourself into a small, harmless little horse. Try clacking your mouth and licking your lips.  I just thought of that. Lol. I might try it though if given the circumstances. BUT, and that's a big but, any horse, pony, big, small, young, old that comes at you and you feel threatened you make yourself as big and scary as possible. Especially if you are new to the herd. You want to be the either the lead stallion/gelding or the boss mare, and size doesn't make a difference. Keeper ended up 17.2 and 1500 pounds. Yet his 13.1 pony friend bossed him all over the place and Keeper is still the bottom of the herd pack. This doesn't mean he's a regular pushover. When he was introduced to a different herd he held his own and pushed less dominate horses around. So their I go digressing once again. I just believe we need to understand the horses language first, then you teach the horse people language. The second thing you have to do is educate yourself by exploring the different methods and adapt their methods to what seems sensible. Professional trainers have a simple goal and a system for teaching a horse to get to that goal. As your horses trainer you need to do the same thing. Choose a goal and devise your own system for getting there. |
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